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i think it will just convince more people in afghanistan that the war isn't helping them but it is actually killing and injuring more and more people so isn't working isn't going to work when you have a war where the risk of growing insurgency will play all sorts of people who are victims of this and children are obviously one of the worst of the casualties the only solution to this is to sell you a war isn't working it has there is absolutely no justification for nato forces to be there and that they should withdraw the troops this is now coming up to the tenth anniversary of the war and there is absolutely no question that this war is not getting better it is getting worse it is almost certain that whatever settlement eventually comes in afghanistan it will involve the taliban in some capacity nearly everybody now recognizes this so what is the point of continuing this war the point of continuing this war is because the americans and the british and their allies cannot admit defeat in the second country are to what happened in iraq that is why they're there they are there in order to prop
i think it will just convince more people in afghanistan that the war isn't helping them but it is actually killing and injuring more and more people so isn't working isn't going to work when you have a war where the risk of growing insurgency will play all sorts of people who are victims of this and children are obviously one of the worst of the casualties the only solution to this is to sell you a war isn't working it has there is absolutely no justification for nato forces to be there and...
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officials who have talked about being in afghanistan for years and it a future despite a two thousand and fourteen withdrawal deadline may recall their forehead at the assumptions involved in rees calculations but even without speculating about war policy in the future and there is plenty of evidence now that these numbers are imaginary defense savings are based on a congressional budget office estimate that puts the bill for the wars at close to one point seven trillion dollars over the next ten years ok here's the problem as a cvo report obtained by foreign policies blog the cable shows this estimate is based on simple math with no connection to any policy realities they just took this year's cost for the wars and added inflation for every year in the future and it became will point. the reality is that it is impossible to estimate the costs of the war because policy questions remain unanswered and this projection is a very high one which means most likely those savings are imagined now the numbers are what a former clinton administration budget leader gordon adams writes are what b
officials who have talked about being in afghanistan for years and it a future despite a two thousand and fourteen withdrawal deadline may recall their forehead at the assumptions involved in rees calculations but even without speculating about war policy in the future and there is plenty of evidence now that these numbers are imaginary defense savings are based on a congressional budget office estimate that puts the bill for the wars at close to one point seven trillion dollars over the next...
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defense has apologized after one of its attack helicopters one hundred five children by mistake in afghanistan according to the u.n. the number of civilians killed by nato airstrikes has gone up with the death toll this year alone standing at seventy nine anti-war activist lindsey german sayings it's time for the alliance to admit the failure of its afghan campaign i think it will just convince more people in afghanistan that the war isn't helping them but it is actually killing and injuring more and more people so isn't working isn't going to work when you have a war where the risk of growing insurgency will bring me all sorts of people who are victims of various and children are obviously one of the worst of the casualties the only solution to this is to say you war isn't working it has there is absolutely no justification for the nato forces to be there and that they should withdraw the troops this is now coming up to the tenth anniversary of the war and there is absolutely no question that this war is not getting better it is getting worse it is almost certain that whatever settlement even
defense has apologized after one of its attack helicopters one hundred five children by mistake in afghanistan according to the u.n. the number of civilians killed by nato airstrikes has gone up with the death toll this year alone standing at seventy nine anti-war activist lindsey german sayings it's time for the alliance to admit the failure of its afghan campaign i think it will just convince more people in afghanistan that the war isn't helping them but it is actually killing and injuring...
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i am pleased to see maybe one of those scholars re-ask con whose new book on afghanistan was written while he was a scholar is with us today. rh a program has undertaken an extensive review of the economics assistance program and we will roll out the conclusions of that later this year. the house foreign affairs committee yesterday, sand that means walled off running for economic assistance and military assistance to pakistan until the president certifies that the area has adequate cooperation on counterterrorism. that is just one house committee but that is a move that some feel including me may go in the wrong direction, economic assistance i would argue is absolutely crucial. president musharraf's speech this morning comes in a timely moment. relations between our two countries are more strained today than at any time in the past 10 years. eight of our countries needs the other for the achievement of important strategic object this. yet most of the public discussion of the bilateral relationship focuses on our divisions and are as agreements. perhaps a day's session will serve to
i am pleased to see maybe one of those scholars re-ask con whose new book on afghanistan was written while he was a scholar is with us today. rh a program has undertaken an extensive review of the economics assistance program and we will roll out the conclusions of that later this year. the house foreign affairs committee yesterday, sand that means walled off running for economic assistance and military assistance to pakistan until the president certifies that the area has adequate cooperation...
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whether it is the war in iraq, afghanistan, gas prices. oil in the gulf gulf, oil crisis, food crisis and now we have the disturbance across europe on the financial stability of some countries. so now it's our turn and we're up for that same financial scrutiny. i think they're trying to tie two things into one bag when they should be addressing one at a time. the issue at hand is addressing the debt ceiling which allows us to get our house in order. it should not be entrapment where either party is using the, off the backs of the workers, leverage to drive their personal interests, trying to drive a national crisis by linking the two issues together. they are distinctly separate. go ahead and raise the debt ceiling and then get the work with the same initiative and energy they're applying to this effort, to resolving the cap, the capping and then the reduction that is necessary to get to the, to the end that they both agree to. but to do it off the back of the fear of people with regards to entitlements or savings, or going to work tomorro
whether it is the war in iraq, afghanistan, gas prices. oil in the gulf gulf, oil crisis, food crisis and now we have the disturbance across europe on the financial stability of some countries. so now it's our turn and we're up for that same financial scrutiny. i think they're trying to tie two things into one bag when they should be addressing one at a time. the issue at hand is addressing the debt ceiling which allows us to get our house in order. it should not be entrapment where either...
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guest: reid has $1.4 trillion in anticipated cuts from the war in afghanistan and iran. that is something that has already been considered. that is not a real cut predellas already considered before. we thought that we were going to make the spending cuts earlier. so when he throws that end, it is a nonstarter. you'd take that $1.4 trillion yen has cut would only be $1.3 trillion grid and yet they would increase the debt ceiling by almost double that. we believe you do not increase the debt ceiling more than the spending cuts. that just takes us down the same road we have been on, spend more money that you take in, run the printing presses, and keep spending money. host: there are a number conservatives from the house republican study committee that says the speaker does not have my vote. i will not vote for this latest proposal. you so that you're leaning toward yes. what is your bayh's to these younger members, these freshmen members? guest: we're going to sit down as a conference and talk about this. i am one of the founders of the republican study committee. recall t
guest: reid has $1.4 trillion in anticipated cuts from the war in afghanistan and iran. that is something that has already been considered. that is not a real cut predellas already considered before. we thought that we were going to make the spending cuts earlier. so when he throws that end, it is a nonstarter. you'd take that $1.4 trillion yen has cut would only be $1.3 trillion grid and yet they would increase the debt ceiling by almost double that. we believe you do not increase the debt...
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in fact, the wars of iraq and afghanistan were longer than world war ii. and all of those moneys were spent under the last administration, tax cuts that went about for individuals who by and large have said no thank you because they want to invest in america. so i'm prepared to join with my many friends to work on moving this country forward, but let's move on. let's move on beyond the impossible proposal given by speaker boehner of that -- that focuses on a hybrid, vote now for the debt ceiling then come back and fight it out again in six months. that is not the consistency and the evenness that is necessary for all of those who are seeking employment or all of those businesses or all of those in the arena of money making. they need an even pathway. and so while we get on with the ordinary business, get on with the ordinary business so that we can begin to talk about the growth of this country, education for the young people, making sure the doors of businesses stay open, talk about how do we fix a tax system where we all can benefit. but as long as we ar
in fact, the wars of iraq and afghanistan were longer than world war ii. and all of those moneys were spent under the last administration, tax cuts that went about for individuals who by and large have said no thank you because they want to invest in america. so i'm prepared to join with my many friends to work on moving this country forward, but let's move on. let's move on beyond the impossible proposal given by speaker boehner of that -- that focuses on a hybrid, vote now for the debt...
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it includes savings from winding down the war in iraq and afghanistan. real savings scored at about $1 trillion at the cbo. we know that some republicans will quibble over these savings, but they have no leg to stand on. the wars are the second biggest policy driver of our deficits after the bush tax cuts. if conducting these wards adds to the debt, it is undeniable that there will be savings. the administration tells us that with a wind down in place in iraq and afghanistan, they can prosecute the war is over the next decade. the cbo assumes $1.67 trillion through 2021 by adopting the lower number in the administration. we know that the republicans agreed with at this math, because they included the exact same savings in the rye and budget that passed the house. they never criticize the accounting than. it is hard to see how they could do so now. lastly, senator reid in his proposal allows for deeper savings down the road. all in all, this is an offer that republicans cannot refuse. all of the cuts in the senator's proposal have been supported, at one p
it includes savings from winding down the war in iraq and afghanistan. real savings scored at about $1 trillion at the cbo. we know that some republicans will quibble over these savings, but they have no leg to stand on. the wars are the second biggest policy driver of our deficits after the bush tax cuts. if conducting these wards adds to the debt, it is undeniable that there will be savings. the administration tells us that with a wind down in place in iraq and afghanistan, they can prosecute...
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same, but it would also count a trillion dollars in savings from winding down the wars in iraq and be afghanistan. that would raise the debt ceiling enough to get us through 2012, though boehner's would only take us through the end of the year. last night the president and speaker both aimed to put publish pressure on the other. >> there's no symptom of big government more menacing than our debt. break its grip, and we begin to liberate our economy and our future. >> i'm asking you all to make your voice heard. if you want a balanced approach to reducing the deficit, let your member of congress know. >> reporter: enough people did, presumably supporters as well as opponents, that the speaker's web site crashed along with those of a couple of other republicans and at least one democrat. republicans say the president wants a long-term debt ceiling hike to keep it out of his re-election bid. democrats say the bond rating agencies want a long-term hike. a short-term one, they say, would risk a downgrade of this country's credit rating, and that would hike credit interest rates on everyone. jon: the o
same, but it would also count a trillion dollars in savings from winding down the wars in iraq and be afghanistan. that would raise the debt ceiling enough to get us through 2012, though boehner's would only take us through the end of the year. last night the president and speaker both aimed to put publish pressure on the other. >> there's no symptom of big government more menacing than our debt. break its grip, and we begin to liberate our economy and our future. >> i'm asking you...
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a big piece of that is what senator reid calls the winding down of the wars in iraq and afghanistan. that will save a trillion dollars. now republicans have called that a gimmick, a savings from wars that are winding down, even though, by the way, the same savings were counted in some republican budgets. reid's plan would not reform or cut medicare, medicaid, social security. also no changes to taxes. it would raise the debt ceiling by 2.4 trillion dollars. that would be enough to fund the government through next year's election. the boehner plan is considered more short term. it would raise the debt ceiling in two different steps. the first step would happen immediately raising the ceiling by a trillion dollars and spending cuts of 1.2 trillion over ten years. and get us to next year, right some we need a second vote to raise the debt ceiling again by another $1.6 trillion. that second increase would be contingent on more cuts. another $1.8 trillion in spending cuts and have to be agreed to by a bipartisan committee. >> so far, the debt stalemate has been a drag on the stock markets
a big piece of that is what senator reid calls the winding down of the wars in iraq and afghanistan. that will save a trillion dollars. now republicans have called that a gimmick, a savings from wars that are winding down, even though, by the way, the same savings were counted in some republican budgets. reid's plan would not reform or cut medicare, medicaid, social security. also no changes to taxes. it would raise the debt ceiling by 2.4 trillion dollars. that would be enough to fund the...
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brave men and women in uniform who have given their lives in the service of our nation in iraq and afghanistan and their families and of all who serve in our armed forces and their families. the chair: without objection, two-minute voting will continue. the unfinished business is the request for a railroaded -- vord -- recorded vote on amendment number 2 by the gentleman from illinois, mr. rush, on which further proceedings were postponed, on which the noes prevailed by voice vote. the clerk will redesignate the amendment. the clerk: amendment number 2 printed in house report 112-181, offered by mr. rush of illinois. the chair: a recorded vote has been requested. a sufficient number having risen, a recorded vote is ordered. this will be a two-minute vote, followed by a series of additional two-minute votes. [captioning made possible by the national captioning institute, inc., in cooperation with the united states house of representatives. any use of the closed-captioned coverage of the house proceedings for political or commercial purposes is expressly prohibited by the u.s. house of represent
brave men and women in uniform who have given their lives in the service of our nation in iraq and afghanistan and their families and of all who serve in our armed forces and their families. the chair: without objection, two-minute voting will continue. the unfinished business is the request for a railroaded -- vord -- recorded vote on amendment number 2 by the gentleman from illinois, mr. rush, on which further proceedings were postponed, on which the noes prevailed by voice vote. the clerk...